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Pharmalade
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Post Enlarge Person and Totem Transformation
on: January 28, 2014, 23:36

Hello there,

This is a general question about the Bear Shaman Totem Transformation ability and the Enlarge Person spell which I get from my domain, eh? Do they stack?
I had built my character around the idea of a large man/bear mauling people and had thought I had done the research appropriately. Totem Transformation states it doesn't stack with other polymorph effects, and Enlarge Person is not a polymorph effect, so it seems to me that they should. Thank you for your reply.

Links for the inquisitive:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/enlarge-person
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid-archetypes/bear-shaman

EricMcG
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EricMcG
Post Re: Enlarge Person and Totem Transformation
on: January 29, 2014, 00:02

Since you "retain your normal form" while under the Totem Transformation, if Enlarge Person works on you normally (i.e. you're not an Outsider), then it works on you while you have one of the bear aspects active. The natural attacks, if that's the aspect you chose, would be 1d8 bite + 2x1d6 claws after you are enlarged.

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Paul Jackson
Post Re: Enlarge Person and Totem Transformation
on: January 29, 2014, 13:40

Sorry. no. Totem transformation can NOT be combined with enlarge person.

The key phrase is under the polymorph subschool of the transformation school of magic. Right at the bottom

" In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell."

Under the bear shaman

"This is a polymorph effect and cannot be used while the druid is using another polymorph effect, such as wild shape."

So, polymorph effect. And therefore changing size does not work.

Pharmalade
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Post Re: Enlarge Person and Totem Transformation
on: April 30, 2014, 12:28

Character's dead then. Not coming back.

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