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Michael
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Post Rebels Ransom Retrospective
on: May 31, 2013, 12:25

So, how about that Rebel's Ransom? I rather enjoyed the scenario, but I think I could have used another hour or two to run it. It is deceptively long, and features a few odd rules such as underwater combat and a variety of curses/diseases/poisons.

Just a few answers to questions my players had:

  • The flame oracle had the Burning Gaze ability, which meant that she could see through the Wall of Fire while you folks couldn't.
  • The DCs for the Mummies and Sea Hags were VERY high, because ya'll were playing up so they had the advanced template. The Scorpions were advanced too, which is why they were fairly successful with their grapples and poison.
  • Getting Evil Eye'd by a Sea Hag is very, very bad. I feel awful for any group who sends a single Pathfinder down into the water room.
  • I had a quick chat with Adam regarding whether or not killing a helpless foe is evil or not, and we have not come to a definite conclusion. I'll do a bit of research and see if Mike Brock has an official policy.

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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 12:26

    (I didn't play this, but want to give my thumbs up to the idea of having retrospectives in Pathfinder :))

    Jeff
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 13:42

    Quote from Michael on May 31, 2013, 12:25
    I had a quick chat with Adam regarding whether or not killing a helpless foe is evil or not, and we have not come to a definite conclusion. I'll do a bit of research and see if Mike Brock has an official policy.

    There is no official policy. What there are are several threads about that topic specifically, both within the PFS section and the General Pathfinder section, as well as the mention of it several times through various "What constitutes an evil act?" threads.

    Let me tell you, if you can't get an official answer in a thread like "Is torture an evil act?", then you're not going to get one about killing a helpless foe. For my money, the answer is "no." It's a utilitarian act, not an evil one. Besides, is leaving someone trussed up and unconscious in a slime, fungus, and monster-ridden dungeon with no one to protect them really any different than just slicing their throat?

    Adam
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 13:43

    I'm a fan of retrospectives too.

    I was aware of the flame oracle ability, and we should make sure not to question our GM based on an enemy having something we don't.

    Grappling is actually an issue I need to solve with my barbarian, although my solution of headbutting the enemy worked out okay. Wolf, you need to get a one-handed weapon, unarmed strike, or something that you can use while grappled. Alternatively, don't ever get grappled! 🙂

    The sea hag in the water trick is mean, and I hope they don't put such a deathtrap into anymore 5-9 scenarios.

    FragerZ
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 18:12

    There weren't any rebels.

    There were no ransoms.

    Also, I was helpless when I was comatose in the water. If you killed me, Michael, then you would have committed an evil act. GMs who kill PCs require atonement.

    Adam
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 18:49

    Technically, it would be asphyxiation committing the evil act.

    FragerZ
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    FragerZ
    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 19:09

    I wouldn't have failed my constitution check if I had more KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

    Adam
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: May 31, 2013, 20:18

    I enjoyed the new Star Trek, including the callbacks to earlier movies. It was a good show, although a bit cliche in the action department.

    Michael
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    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: June 1, 2013, 00:13

    Quote from Adam on May 31, 2013, 18:49
    Technically, it would be asphyxiation committing the evil act.

    I generally assume that environmental hazards are Lawful Evil: "plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion."

    Quote from FragerZ
    There weren't any rebels.

    There were no ransoms.

    If you proclaim the bandits to be evildoers, they will hold the unconscious Pathfinder hostage until you let them go. I guess the ransom is... their freedom?

    EricMcG
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    EricMcG
    Post Re: Rebels Ransom Retrospective
    on: June 1, 2013, 15:52

    Evil is as evil does. If the PCs have no problem killing a helpless foe, then the creatures they encounter should have no problem either.

    The one time I killed a helpless PC was because doing so heals a morhg HDxd6 and creates a fast zombie. Had I remembered to apply the boon, it would have been a TPK as there was a 2nd helpless PC I could have done it to as well.

    One rule I allow is the Heroic Save. I allow a PC bleeding out to delay until the end of the round, which gives every PC a chance to stabilize or heal it. From a player perspective, bleeding out is the worst way to die.

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